The next 2 weeks will prove why Rush Limbaughs opinion was correct>>

[PatPatriot]

ESPN, SI and the usual agenda driven media outlets will be all over Mcnabb and the blah,blah,blah
The same way they promote that cheating lying ********** Barry Bonds for the same reason they think America needs a black sports hero.

I personally like Mcnabb I think he is a class act and a good QB,like Manning is a good QB.

Great is Tom Brady and if you don't understand the difference,thats the reason you rob Peter to pay Pauls so you can gamble.

 

[sportsbet]

:lolBIG: NFL Network says McNabb has the edge!


arty:

sb

 

[919]

that's funny

You don't think rush is driven by anything other than the truth (or prescription drugs)...?

As a young broadcaster in the 1970s, Limbaugh once told a black caller: "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back." A decade ago, after becoming nationally syndicated, he mused on the air: "Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"

When Carol Moseley-Braun (D-IL) was in the U.S. Senate, the first black woman ever elected to that body, Limbaugh would play the "Movin' On Up" theme song from TV's "Jeffersons" when he mentioned her. Limbaugh sometimes still uses mock dialect -- substituting "ax" for "ask"-- when discussing black leaders.

Once, in response to a caller arguing that black people need to be heard, Limbaugh responded: "They are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"

All he is, is a political hack.

And as for ESPN giving McNabb "the edge", I have also heard them mention many times Brady's name in the same breath as Montana and Unitas.

I think there is room to give many quarterbacks and players their due. If you think McNabb is an overrated QB, you are entitled to your opinion....however, I think most reasonable people who know much about the game would disagree.

 

[PatPatriot]

919

I think Mcnabb is a good QB.
I think Limbuagh is correct in his opinion that the media makes Mcnabb overrated becuase he is black....Not that he is overated.
I like him better than Manning.Manning is a great QB until they start playing tackle football.

By the way thats my prediction its not fact.
The media will portray DM as the 3rd coming of Christ....Its not DM's fault.

 

[WCBias]

Pat,

Hard to believe a real football fan actually buys into Fatboy's blather. The media has nothing to do with McNabb's popularity or skill as that Hypocritical Drug Addict implied. He's a good quarterback, not as good as Brady, or Manning, but one of the best in the league. The funny thing is if it had been Tennessee playing that night on Monday Night Football he would have said the exact same thing about McNair...or any other good black quarterback. He was that night, has always been, and forever will be a racist.

And since we are erasing Bonds from the record book, better take out LT as the greatest linebacker ever, because all those coke-induced sacks deserve an asterisk as well.

 

[bblight]

Much like Patriot, I like McNabb - I think he's a class act.
But!!!
McNabb is a Bledsoe clone!

Put the pressure on this guy and he gets happy feet.
Go up by a few TD's, and he starts lobbing the passes up for grabs.

With the easiest schedule in the league, the Eagles have the 12th rated offense. If they played several good defenses, would they still have the 12th rated defense, or would that offense be ranked a down in the bottom half of the league?

I like the idea of the media touting McNabb as the second coming - it will help keep the spread down. I can only hope that God himself, in the guise of TO, will get to play and make the spread even lower.

 

[WCBias]

Pat...

just read your last post...wow.

Do you selectively notice when the media talks about McNabb? As someone totally impartial and located on the west coast, the media doesn't talk about McNabb nearly as much as they hype Manning. Maybe equal to Brady, but I have read and heard way more about Brady since Sunday and his (deserved) place in history. In fact, I've read and heard way more about Vick than McNabb during these playoffs, even leading up to Sunday's game.

Do your ears perk up every time McNabb's name is mentioned and immediately jump on the "Media Hype" angle? How soon will you notice Vick, and Caulpepper, and McNair, or any other future great black quarterback. WIll it take a stupid comment by Rush Limbaugh for you to notice this?

Turn down the ignorance and open your eyes. The media is talking about all of the football players...and if need be, pointing out the obvious....McNabb has the opportunity to be the second black quarterback to win the superbowl....

You will hear lots of that too when Dungy/Lewis/whoever is the first black coach to win a superbowl. But then again, it will be the media's overhyping these overrated coaches.

By the way, just went to ESPN.COM NFL section and the pic is of Corey Dillon and the Pats having an edge, and a small picture of Terry Bradshaw in his Pitt days...no word on McNabb. Over at Sportsline NFL there is a picture of the Pats D...not a thing on McNabb. Right now at CNNSI there is a cover story on Terell Owens, nothing on McNabb. At NFL.com there is a picture of Belichick and Trotter...no word here either on McNabb's greatness. Finally over at Foxsports.com the NFL page has a picture of Reid and Belichick, but there is a QB comparison picture of Brady/McNabb, no lean on which is better....

Where exactly is the media overhyping McNabb right now?

 

[Fidel]

Thank You Grand Master Patriot

It's true, in your eyes and Rush's Mcnabb does have that certain "Unfogivable Blackness".

 

[PatPatriot]

The funny thing is if it had been Tennessee playing that night on Monday Night Football he would have said the exact same thing about McNair...or any other good black quarterback. He was that night, has always been, and forever will be a racist.

WC... I agree with that.
what I don't agree with is just because someone isn't PC does not make on racist.

Your point about Manning is right too.

Where exactly is the media overhyping McNabb right now?

Like I said thats my prediction.If all my predictions were right I wouldn't need this stupid board.

 

[Budman]

Hype hype hype Give all the attention to Mcnabb and leave Brady out of the spotlight. Just the way Tom likes it.After this Superbowl he will get the respect he deserves as one of the top three QB's of all time. 3 bowls in 4 years and the guy keeps getting better!!!!

 

[Dude]

Are you guys kidding me

All I have heard so far is how great belichick is and how tom brady is all ready a hall of famer..not one person has given the eagles a shot at this and i sort of remember 4 years ago when not one person gave the pats a shot against the rams.. as i see it.. all the pressure is on the pats and the eagles will play like they have nothing to lose.

 

[ElIguana]

WC Bias,

THANK YOU for typing "asterisk" instead of "asteric"!!!!!!!!!!! If I had a dollar for every time I heard/saw someone misspell/mispeak this word, I would take everyone in the forum out for a lot of drinks.

Your next challenge is to educate posters on the difference between "your" and "you're." Good luck!

 

[919]

Pat...

just read your last post...wow.

Do you selectively notice when the media talks about McNabb? As someone totally impartial and located on the west coast, the media doesn't talk about McNabb nearly as much as they hype Manning. Maybe equal to Brady, but I have read and heard way more about Brady since Sunday and his (deserved) place in history. In fact, I've read and heard way more about Vick than McNabb during these playoffs, even leading up to Sunday's game.

Do your ears perk up every time McNabb's name is mentioned and immediately jump on the "Media Hype" angle? How soon will you notice Vick, and Caulpepper, and McNair, or any other future great black quarterback. WIll it take a stupid comment by Rush Limbaugh for you to notice this?

Turn down the ignorance and open your eyes. The media is talking about all of the football players...and if need be, pointing out the obvious....McNabb has the opportunity to be the second black quarterback to win the superbowl....

You will hear lots of that too when Dungy/Lewis/whoever is the first black coach to win a superbowl. But then again, it will be the media's overhyping these overrated coaches.

By the way, just went to ESPN.COM NFL section and the pic is of Corey Dillon and the Pats having an edge, and a small picture of Terry Bradshaw in his Pitt days...no word on McNabb. Over at Sportsline NFL there is a picture of the Pats D...not a thing on McNabb. Right now at CNNSI there is a cover story on Terell Owens, nothing on McNabb. At NFL.com there is a picture of Belichick and Trotter...no word here either on McNabb's greatness. Finally over at Foxsports.com the NFL page has a picture of Reid and Belichick, but there is a QB comparison picture of Brady/McNabb, no lean on which is better....

Where exactly is the media overhyping McNabb right now?

well said....

it's funny what you notice....by and large many of us have selective hearing...hell, i tune out the old lady most of the day, so it's no wonder i am never ready for dinner (we are going to dinner?)....thing is, ESPN is in the business of hyping athletes...white and black alike...but when they talk about how good a player is that you think is average, it catches your eye....plenty of qb's have gotten deserved and undeserved attention throughout the year....you could probably make a case for many QB's in the league....

Manning - deserved
Culpepper - well, he had more yards than Manning, so i think that says something (+39 tds)
Plummer - heard a lot about him this season though he did have 20 ints
Favre - obviously a great QB and future hall of famer (didn't have as good a season as McNabb though - 1 less td and 9 more ints...QB rating was 12 points lower as well)
Brees - finally had a very nice year...numbers were comparable to McNabb's...came up a bit short on yards....

McNabb - Of all the QB's with over 3000 yards passing only Brees threw less ints...McNabb was third in TD's, 8th in passing yards (though he had fewer attempts than every QB in the top 10), 4th in passer rating (.1 begind brees)...

like him or not McNabb had a VERY good season....he like Manning uses all of his targets....but, unlike Manning he can run....

he is NOT overhyped!!! he is a top 3-5 NFL QB!!!

 

[Bookem]

El Iguana your write on their!

"WC Bias,

THANK YOU for typing "asterisk" instead of "asteric"!!!!!!!!!!! If I had a dollar for every time I heard/saw someone misspell/mispeak this word, I would take everyone in the forum out for a lot of drinks.

Your next challenge is to educate posters on the difference between "your" and "you're." Good luck!"

I would like to formally nominate El Iguana as the official RX English Mod...

There are many educated handicappers in this forum....though not many English majors....
:digit:

Bookem

 

[CashPlays]

Where the hell is the asian american football stars?? Bunch of racists not promoting the asian QBs!!!! .. Oh wait there are none...since there are like 4 billion asians compared to like 400 million white people we need a lawyer.... who will stand up for our rights.. we are not represented!!!!!!!!! Hell we we just buy all your stinking teams and make you watch sumu wrestling.....:lolBIG:

 

[nyc76]

919

I think Mcnabb is a good QB.
I think Limbuagh is correct in his opinion that the media makes Mcnabb overrated becuase he is black....Not that he is overated.
I like him better than Manning.Manning is a great QB until they start playing tackle football.

By the way thats my prediction its not fact.
The media will portray DM as the 3rd coming of Christ....Its not DM's fault.

You aren't making any sense. If he's a good QB deserving of attention why would Rush Limbaugh be right if the media gives him the attention that he deserves? Rush Limbaughs point was that McNabb was NOT a good QB and that he only got press because he's black as if he had no talent and had not earned the spotlight.

 

[919]

You aren't making any sense. If he's a good QB deserving of attention why would Rush Limbaugh be right if the media gives him the attention that he deserves? Rush Limbaughs point was that McNabb was NOT a good QB and that he only got press because he's black as if he had no talent and had not earned the spotlight.

exactly

 

[dwax]

We do not need ur minority political opinnons

Post quality football stats or opinions or shut up ...we do not need ur politics DFB

You don't think rush is driven by anything other than the truth (or prescription drugs)...?

As a young broadcaster in the 1970s, Limbaugh once told a black caller: "Take that bone out of your nose and call me back." A decade ago, after becoming nationally syndicated, he mused on the air: "Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"

When Carol Moseley-Braun (D-IL) was in the U.S. Senate, the first black woman ever elected to that body, Limbaugh would play the "Movin' On Up" theme song from TV's "Jeffersons" when he mentioned her. Limbaugh sometimes still uses mock dialect -- substituting "ax" for "ask"-- when discussing black leaders.

Once, in response to a caller arguing that black people need to be heard, Limbaugh responded: "They are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?"

All he is, is a political hack.

And as for ESPN giving McNabb "the edge", I have also heard them mention many times Brady's name in the same breath as Montana and Unitas.

I think there is room to give many quarterbacks and players their due. If you think McNabb is an overrated QB, you are entitled to your opinion....however, I think most reasonable people who know much about the game would disagree.

 

[Roxygurl]

what a great debate. speaking as a casual observer i have a few thoughts. if tom bradys being compared to joe montana it has to be the way his career has unfolded. montana was not even the starter his senior year at ND. he was drafted as an afterthought by the niners.he was so frustrated with his situation he wanted to quit. bill walsh had a system he brought with him from san diego. walsh was a desciple of don coryell and believed his system could create a productive quarterback. it did. the rest is history. tom brady was nothing special in college. he got the job done but did nothing spectacular. his biggest win was beating ryan leafs WSU cougars in the rose bowl. that got him noticed. as did joe montanas last performance in his bowl game. it got him drafted. and he wound up with a system that did for brady what walshes did for montana.what if both players were drafted by other teams how would things be today? could montana have been so unreal at tampa bay during the 80s? could brady be what he is in oakland? i believe its the systems they play in. same with mcnabb. in the 99 draft he could have gone to cleveland or cincinatti.the eagles drafted #2 and they easily could have drafted couch or akili smith.one poster earlier described mcnabb as becoming more or less a black jim everett with happy feet and passes that sail when pressured.would he be that kind of qb if he didnt have andy reids system and personnell? im not sure montana,brady or mcnabb would be great QBs without great coaches and thier unique systems that aided in getting there. montana was helped by great defense,a stellar WR and great drafting. he had john taylor and jerry rice and a reliable back in rodger craig. tom brady may be more talented because hes had no real super star WRs to throw too or a household name RB behind him.thats great coaching. fantasy football is huge but you NEVER see any impressive fantasy numbers from the skill positions and no one drafts pats players for thier fantasy teams. they just get the job done.mcnabb will have his chance but if TO doesnt play in the SB philly will have a built in excuse if they lose. montana likely wouldnt have won 1 or 2 SBs without rice and/or taylor to throw to.it may be mcnabbs turn but if it happens dont forget andy reids system made him what he is. and that it could have been akili smith starting this game. sometimes the stars have to line up right.~RG

 

[maverick2112]

what a great debate. speaking as a casual observer i have a few thoughts. if tom bradys being compared to joe montana it has to be the way his career has unfolded. montana was not even the starter his senior year at ND. he was drafted as an afterthought by the niners.he was so frustrated with his situation he wanted to quit. bill walsh had a system he brought with him from san diego. walsh was a desciple of don coryell and believed his system could create a productive quarterback. it did. the rest is history. tom brady was nothing special in college. he got the job done but did nothing spectacular. his biggest win was beating ryan leafs WSU cougars in the rose bowl. that got him noticed. as did joe montanas last performance in his bowl game. it got him drafted. and he wound up with a system that did for brady what walshes did for montana.what if both players were drafted by other teams how would things be today? could montana have been so unreal at tampa bay during the 80s? could brady be what he is in oakland? i believe its the systems they play in. same with mcnabb. in the 99 draft he could have gone to cleveland or cincinatti.the eagles drafted #2 and they easily could have drafted couch or akili smith.one poster earlier described mcnabb as becoming more or less a black jim everett with happy feet and passes that sail when pressured.would he be that kind of qb if he didnt have andy reids system and personnell? im not sure montana,brady or mcnabb would be great QBs without great coaches and thier unique systems that aided in getting there. montana was helped by great defense,a stellar WR and great drafting. he had john taylor and jerry rice and a reliable back in rodger craig. tom brady may be more talented because hes had no real super star WRs to throw too or a household name RB behind him.thats great coaching. fantasy football is huge but you NEVER see any impressive fantasy numbers from the skill positions and no one drafts pats players for thier fantasy teams. they just get the job done.mcnabb will have his chance but if TO doesnt play in the SB philly will have a built in excuse if they lose. montana likely wouldnt have won 1 or 2 SBs without rice and/or taylor to throw to.it may be mcnabbs turn but if it happens dont forget andy reids system made him what he is. and that it could have been akili smith starting this game. sometimes the stars have to line up right.~RG

Brady did'nt play for Michigan in the Rose Bowl against Wash St. he mave have been the back-up but Brian Greise was the starting QB for the Michigan NC team that had Heisman winner Charles Woodson